[ovs-discuss] Trunk & Vlan tag with ovsbr0,eth0 and vnet0

ashish yadav ashishyadav78 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 4 05:10:58 UTC 2013


Hi Ben,

I have gone through OVS FAQ , but not able to understand Scenario 3 from
FAQ.
So could you please help me in same ?


Thanks & Regards
       Ashish


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Ben Pfaff <blp at nicira.com> wrote:

> The results you explain in all of your scenarios are what I would expect
> to happen.  Did you read the introduction to VLANs in the OVS FAQ?
>
> Q: What's a VLAN?
>
> A: At the simplest level, a VLAN (short for "virtual LAN") is a way to
>    partition a single switch into multiple switches.  Suppose, for
>    example, that you have two groups of machines, group A and group B.
>    You want the machines in group A to be able to talk to each other,
>    and you want the machine in group B to be able to talk to each
>    other, but you don't want the machines in group A to be able to
>    talk to the machines in group B.  You can do this with two
>    switches, by plugging the machines in group A into one switch and
>    the machines in group B into the other switch.
>
>    If you only have one switch, then you can use VLANs to do the same
>    thing, by configuring the ports for machines in group A as VLAN
>    "access ports" for one VLAN and the ports for group B as "access
>    ports" for a different VLAN.  The switch will only forward packets
>    between ports that are assigned to the same VLAN, so this
>    effectively subdivides your single switch into two independent
>    switches, one for each group of machines.
>
>    So far we haven't said anything about VLAN headers.  With access
>    ports, like we've described so far, no VLAN header is present in
>    the Ethernet frame.  This means that the machines (or switches)
>    connected to access ports need not be aware that VLANs are
>    involved, just like in the case where we use two different physical
>    switches.
>
>    Now suppose that you have a whole bunch of switches in your
>    network, instead of just one, and that some machines in group A are
>    connected directly to both switches 1 and 2.  To allow these
>    machines to talk to each other, you could add an access port for
>    group A's VLAN to switch 1 and another to switch 2, and then
>    connect an Ethernet cable between those ports.  That works fine,
>    but it doesn't scale well as the number of switches and the number
>    of VLANs increases, because you use up a lot of valuable switch
>    ports just connecting together your VLANs.
>
>    This is where VLAN headers come in.  Instead of using one cable and
>    two ports per VLAN to connect a pair of switches, we configure a
>    port on each switch as a VLAN "trunk port".  Packets sent and
>    received on a trunk port carry a VLAN header that says what VLAN
>    the packet belongs to, so that only two ports total are required to
>    connect the switches, regardless of the number of VLANs in use.
>    Normally, only switches (either physical or virtual) are connected
>    to a trunk port, not individual hosts, because individual hosts
>    don't expect to see a VLAN header in the traffic that they receive.
>
>    None of the above discussion says anything about particular VLAN
>    numbers.  This is because VLAN numbers are completely arbitrary.
>    One must only ensure that a given VLAN is numbered consistently
>    throughout a network and that different VLANs are given different
>    numbers.  (That said, VLAN 0 is usually synonymous with a packet
>    that has no VLAN header, and VLAN 4095 is reserved.)
>
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 10:12:08AM +0530, ashish yadav wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could anyone please look into these fundamental queries of OVS & Vlan
>  and
> > reply ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> >        Ashish
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:42 PM, ashish yadav <ashishyadav78 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I was doing some exercise, came across few scenario.
> > > I need help to understand these cases.
> > >
> > > *Environment: *
> > > a. One Host and one VM in it
> > > b. OVS running:
> > >       [root at sholay ashish]# ovs-vsctl show
> > > 2b113c03-81e5-4c90-ba6c-b2eb2381432a
> > >     Bridge "ovsbr0"
> > >         Port "ovsbr0"
> > >             Interface "ovsbr0"
> > >                 type: internal
> > >         Port "vnet0"
> > >             Interface "vnet0"
> > >         Port "eth0"
> > >             Interface "eth0"
> > >     ovs_version: "1.4.6"
> > >
> > > VM is up and I am able to ping:
> > >   a. External World from VM & Host.
> > >   b. Ping between HOST & VM fine.
> > >
> > > *Scenario 1:*
> > >       vnet0 is vlan tag:
> > >    [root at sholay ashish]# ovs-vsctl show
> > > 2b113c03-81e5-4c90-ba6c-b2eb2381432a
> > >     Bridge "ovsbr0"
> > >         Port "ovsbr0"
> > >             tag: 0
> > >             Interface "ovsbr0"
> > >                 type: internal
> > >         Port "vnet0"
> > >             tag: 5
> > >             Interface "vnet0"
> > >         Port "eth0"
> > >             tag: 0
> > >             Interface "eth0"
> > >     ovs_version: "1.4.6"
> > >
> > >         a. From VM, not able to ping Host machine & External world.
> > >         b. From Host, able to ping External world.
> > >
> > >             This is desired behaviour. No problem here.
> > >
> > >
> > >  *Scenario 2:*
> > >            ovsbr0 & vent0 are Vlan Tag:
> > >            [root at sholay ashish]# ovs-vsctl show
> > >  2b113c03-81e5-4c90-ba6c-b2eb2381432a
> > >     Bridge "ovsbr0"
> > >         Port "ovsbr0"
> > >             tag: 5
> > >             Interface "ovsbr0"
> > >                 type: internal
> > >         Port "vnet0"
> > >             tag: 5
> > >             Interface "vnet0"
> > >         Port "eth0"
> > >             tag: 0
> > >             Interface "eth0"
> > >     ovs_version: "1.4.6"
> > >
> > >         a. VM is able to Ping host, but Fail to ping External world.
> > >             *  Why it is so ?*
> > >         b. Host Machine Fail to ping External world.
> > >               *Why its is so ?*
> > >
> > >
> > >  *Scenario 3:*
> > >      eth0 & vent0 are Vlan Tag:
> > >       [root at sholay ashish]# ovs-vsctl show
> > > 2b113c03-81e5-4c90-ba6c-b2eb2381432a
> > >     Bridge "ovsbr0"
> > >         Port "ovsbr0"
> > >             tag: 0
> > >             Interface "ovsbr0"
> > >                 type: internal
> > >         Port "vnet0"
> > >             tag: 5
> > >             Interface "vnet0"
> > >         Port "eth0"
> > >             tag: 5
> > >             Interface "eth0"
> > >     ovs_version: "1.4.6"
> > >
> > >      a. VM able to ping external world, but fail to ping host ip.
> > >          * Why it is so ?*
> > >      b. Host Machine not able to ping external world.
> > >          *Why  VM can excess external world, but host not ?*
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards
> > >         Ashish
> > >
> > >
>
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